Once there, he smothered the girls and dumped the bodies of all three. Totally depressed, unable to eat or sleep and wondering how she was going to make it on her own. The final minute of the video posted at this link [an extended version of the clip above] is very insightful in this regard. The word divorce comes up 35 times in the Discovery Documents and just once in the CBI Report. Obviously he didnt think it through well enough but I also agree with other posters, he may be someone who is easily pushed over and goes with the flow but having all those strong personality types around him doesnt overshadow the fact that he was harboring a deeper hatred/set of feelings/energy inside, layered deep within himself. That last picture here Watts looks like the wolf in sheeps clothing, baring one of his canine teeth. Her first marriage/husband Discussion I'm interested in Shannan's first marriage. The following day, the Colorado Bureau of Investigation and the FBI joined the investigation. Yes . Chris initially cooperated with police and. It seemed choreographed. Chris Watts has been arrested and charged with murder in connection with the deaths of Shanann, Bella, and Celeste. Shanann and her unborn child were found in a shallow grave near the oil tanks where Watts dumped his children. She obviously would have felt comfortable enough to leave her girls with him, to leave him for a weekend, etc. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. And Leonard King said the same thing that it was virtually impossible to engage her in conversation. Lewis Geyer/Digital First Media Group . Her lifestyle was coming to a screeching halt. IMO they were talking divorce/separation for quite some time, possibly a year.>>>Agreed. It seemed like Shannon dictated everything with the kids and he just followed orders. They may feel emasculated and when the marriage begins to fail, they lose control and parts of their own identitythis kind of melds into the CIVIL REPUTABLE killer when it comes to identity and it appears both CW and SW had their complete lives wrapped up in their family. Chris Watts opened up about the many cracks in his marriage shortly after being sentenced to life in prison without parole for murdering his family. I am the louder, extroverted one in my marriage and my husband is the quieter, more agreeable type. Covert Narcissist are incapable of real love and learn early on to mimic. Why does everyone on this thread seem so willing to badmouth a victim none of you have met? I dont think he seems like much of the lovey-dovey father/husband type. She would have moved back to NC, had her parents look after the kids, gotten a regular ole job and not have been too happy. Thank you Dr. Van De Leek for your enlightament, You have even managed to make it readable and easy to read. Its absolutely ludicrous and I cant wrap my mind around it. Yeah, she was a real gem. He thought he could sway this to work in his favor. Going way back, back to the conversation she had with Mr. Hamza, back before Chris was shopping around for hookups, back to when he might have first flirted with Nichole Kessinger. Admittedly, Chris Watts wasn't looking all that great, already. This might have been in an attempt to just glaze over their issues and not answer truthfully but to answer with half-truths. She added that domestic violence does not have to be physical. You spoil us with love an attention! I believe he didnt divorce her earlier because he needed to find someone else to take her place. If Shanann was a horrible person to some it doesn't mean she killed her children when so much premeditation seems to be at hand. She was brought up in the Moore County of North Carolina. Weve never had a problem in our relationship like this. According to Shananns family, they werent consulted about the film and only came to know about the film when it was already in production. According to Watts confessions, he told Shanann on the morning of the murders that he wanted a divorce separation. @Strawheart, how do you know she didnt kill the little girls? Family (1) Trivia (5) Older sister of Frankie Rzucek. In BENEATH THE OIL, for the first time the full extent of how Chris Watts was locked-in is revealed, as well as why he may have broken out of his deeply dysfunctional marriage the way he did. CW family did it about her from the start without even giving her a chance. Chris was working for Anadarko Petroleum Corp at that time and the couple had to pay a debt of $44800. I couldnt imagine a better man for us. Have you ever broken up with someone and not felt bad about it? The baby was a way of Chris Watts wanting sex so instead of just asking for sex he says why dont we try for another child. Hes passive, a yes man, doesnt want confrontation. I know we cant judge a parent by a few videos, but I didnt see the passionatly loving parent or strong engagement between he and his kids. I am curious why we never hear from any other women in Chris Watts past? "It's horrific": Christopher Watts' sweetheart talks around for the first time as sentencing in Frederick murders pulls near The woman also known as authorities before Watts' arrest for murdering his girlfriend and two daughters Whenever Nichol Kessinger Think before you speak. Christopher is now in jail facing six charges three for first-degree murder and three for tampering with evidence. Why was their marriage not going well? This baby in my belly deserves his full love, she texted her friend, who had advised her to go through Chris phone for signs of infidelity. Only parents can say that. A 34-year-old Shanann was also 15 weeks pregnant with a boy they planned on naming Nico. Wedding Picture of Shanann and Chris Watts. Chris killed his family for several reasons, financially he was ruined. Chris told Shanann he wanted a divorce a few hours later. I think ur right with all this. Hearing their parents noises, Bella came in and Chris told her that her mother was sick. On the day of his arrest, Chris was fired from his job. 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Thats what was so difficult to get out of. Two days later, a body believed to be Shananns was found on property owned by Christophers employer, Anadarko Petroleum. I am so very sorry all of this happened but perhaps it gives pause for thought when making decisions. I think if you go back and look at the Thrive video output it might correlate with when Chris began cheating posting a profile on Tinder and hooking up with Amanda McMahon either Feb. or March 2018. I think I am starting to understand both sides of the fence which may have been prompted by the newly released Netflix Documentary or it may be because this case always sucked me in. He was an attorney correct? Only thing I can think of even though I dont think he has it in him is another girl. way out by divorcing instead of killing her. I listened to Interview podcast with the ex. Hes my ROCK! she wrote about her husband, Christopher Watts, in May. Not saying that is right or even completely true, I feel that this would have started whether or not SW was out of town for that long. Yes, she did want to have the good things in life. Shanann was too busy with her work, if you can call it that, juggling a mountain of debt, and living the high life that Chris Watts checked out of the marriage. Cheryln Cadle, a married grandmother of 12, recalled her correspondence with Chris Watts in "Cellmate Secrets," a true-crime docuseries on Lifetime narrated by Angie Harmon. Shanann Watts Chris Watts familyhttps://www.facebook.com/ShanannWatts/photosCredit: Shanann Watts/Facebook, Chris Wattsdivorcehair jazzSeparationTimeline. Yes, too little to late on her end. In June 2018, Shanann told her husband she was pregnant with their third child. I read a study on LIVID COERCIVE killers who are motivated by anger and rageshowing control issues (recent) and may have abusive tendencies and have issues achieving their self-worth and authority within the home. Janny Free please dont call them little monsters they died but the hand of their father, and Bella was such a sweet little girl, and CeCe was younger she was still in toddler stageShe was gonna grow out of itNo matter what happened between these adults they didnt deserve to die, and neither did Shanann RIP Shanann and your 3 Angels Bella Celeste Nico , Janny didnt call them little monsters she was repeating what Shanann called them in one of her videos . should communicate even if it is good or bad information. Chris likes other people calling the shots. Cheating is their hallmark. So I do wonder did Shanann ever really acknowledge why Chris may have been unhappy? For some reason she couldnt fathom him cheating and posting stupid shit constantly about her wonderful life that was only in her head. For those who may be experiencing intimate partner violence from an abuser and were not certain that is the case here they are able to fit into a societal norm, the perfect family.. Quiet people may appear calm but Chris was not quiet inside. You feel like youre expendable. He was an average student, pretty smart. Chris Watts: Complete Cast of Characters | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs. But it is frustrating watching people who live 1000 times above their means and then expect everybody else to forgive their debts through bankruptcy. Shanann Watts was born on January 10, 1984 in Clifton, New Jersey, USA. I just thank God he took the right No joke. Chris is an introvert. If she was (if she was making $80K a year) she would have to end up paying him child support. Ive watched hundreds of hours of videos and read all the discovery on this case and I think some of what you write may be true but not all. Thats what probably sealed her fate. You are also agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. Once you start, like with everything that unfolded and spiraled out of control, you cant stop or turn back. On Monday, Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant, was reported missing along with her two daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. They dont want family, friends or S/Os to know so they secretly go and get this done. "7 years ago I fell in love with you, 5 years ago I married my best friend, my soul mate, I married you!!" The Watts family eventually settled in Frederick, Colorado in a five-bedroom home they bought in 2013. https://shakedowntitle.com/2018/09/30/dirty-south-customs-shananns-dirty-little-secret/. No one just snaps, Glenn said. She would also get child support but its based on income and its possible, only possible, she was making more than he was. But after years of this I dont think its easy to change who you are or how you treat people. They were Watts way of communicating to Kessinger what he just couldnt do with Shanann. I remember she mentioned in her video discussing this time period she portrayed herself as a hard worker that put him through school. He considered his family an albatross around his neck and divorce was never an option for him after the pregnancy was announced. He was interviewed by many news channels where he pleaded for the return of his family. Hes wishy washy with both and leads them to believe one thing when he actually means another. Shanann was born to Frank Rzucek and Sandra Rzucek. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. NK would have gotten old to him after a while just like SW did. I felt all along there was apparently a rush by the prosecution to get this case brought to closure while ignoring various aspects that to me were very important. The American cable channel Lifetime released a film called Chris Watts: Confessions of a Killer on January 26, 2020. We also know there was a lot of anger and bitterness, especially from Shananns side, over Nut Gate. It probably doesnt matter to those people that Shanann was controlling, and you raise a good point, did she internalize everything and wonder what she was doing wrong? We may never know, but amateur sleuths may want to look at a timeline of their marriage for clues. In that picture of CW in that dumb shirt SW had made (just her, the girls had *nothing* to do with it) and made him wear, hes showing his teeth but he does not seem happy. I have been there but sometimes you have to get a reality check. Six days later, she was dead -- strangled at the hands of her own husband. Then he killed his daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3 at his job site on an oil field. I think it had more to do with her controlling ways and if she knew in her heart that was why he was becoming distant or non-communicative, she really didnt know how to change that about herself, and instead amped it up until co-existing with her became unbearable to him. She was an independent representative for the multi-level marketing company Le-Vel. In a fit of rage, Chris strangulated Shanann and took the three dead bodies to a remote oil-storage site, Anadarko Petroleum, where he was employed before. Shanann was delusional in living beyond their means but she wasnt EVIL Chris Watts is. She was making it very difficult for him to go through with a divorce. He also said so, and others said so too. Shanann Watts, 34, posted the creepy image to Facebook on August 9 She appeared to think her daughters, ages three and four, posed the doll Shanann and the two girls were all killed days. I believe CW told NK and SW exactly what each of them wanted to hear to fit his narrative and his end-game. Im sure not uncommon for cheaters. On August 13, 2018, Watts strangled his wife, Shanann, in their 4,177-square-foot home. There she is chatting merrily with her mother about how they may go to the Mediterranean next year and how the water is nicer other places theyve been. The case became one of the most publicized murders in American history. Her first marriage lasted approximately the same amount of time. Murder is a way to save the family from the hardships, etc. She did tho, threaten him all the time, to take the kids away and he would never see them again. During the welfare check, the police officer inspected the house but there were no signs of Shanann and her daughters. Hes conflicted by the pros and cons of making such a drastic change in his life. Shanann Watts, the Colorado woman who was recently killed along with her two young daughters, was previously married to a man named Chris Watts. Maybe she liked him supporting her, but they were going to run out of money again. How old was he? They had no children from their marriage together and have not communicated in over ten years he estimated. Shan'ann posted videos onto social media promoting selling Le-Vel's wellness supplement Thrive. If that were true I dont think he would have killed them as well. I find it very odd that he did not have girlfriends in high school and prior to meeting Shanann and that we never hear from any of them. You are a complete moron if you think she killed her kids. Very charming outside but empty inside. Chris also said he couldnt talk to her, she wouldnt listen. Shannon too did a lot for the family. #ChrisWatts, A post shared by Nick van der Leek (@nickvdleek) on Jun 7, 2019 at 8:30am PDT. Hammering away relentlessly. He started working out and losing weight and passing glances with Kessinger in the hallway, lunch area, etc. Thank you so much, Your email address will not be published. Shananns family has said Christopher, 33, confessed to killing his wife and children, but law enforcement has not publicly confirmed it. I agree with your points. Shanann was married to a man named Leonard Kim and they got divorced in 2009. He seems to be middle class, possibly depressed due to conflicts and internal struggles *possible psychological issues*, past violent behaviorhe seems like a silent passive-aggressive-explosive type that is unstable and unsteady. It is something I myself have done (not proud and definitely not in the same situation of course) but I can see where things can pile up and become hard to face or tell the truth on. He seems more of a background you and me conquer the world type of dreamer that dates women that are into the same kinksI truly think that is what it was (lust and disillusion) and once you get a taste of someone that flips that switch so to speak it is VERY hard to turn that off. Over the summer of 2018, Chris Watts changed. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. She died on August 13, 2018 in Frederick, Colorado, USA. I think all the abuse and toxicity of being with Shanann and realizing that someone else would want him and treat him well made him snap. So all around, it would have been a lose-lose. Youre right. In November 2017, Shanann posted a video to her Facebook pageto celebrate their anniversary. Can you imagine her as a single parent? But Chris was already involved in an affair: He had become intimate with an unwitting co-worker who believed he was getting a divorce from his wife. in the future. No one has been able to fathom Chris Watts' motive - until now Two Face is available now exclusively on Amazon Kindle Unlimited. And if her controlling nature was no big deal then it would have been no big deal. We dont know whether there had been violence during their marriage, but it would not be surprising that Shanann tried to project a positive image to her friends and colleagues, both on and off of social media.. It is the fear of being discovered, of having to change your life or give something up. Its clear from a thorough analysis of all the discovery and both confessions that Watts was trying to separate from his wife in the weeks and months before the murders, going back as far as a year [close to when Kessinger allegedly made that first Google search for Shanann Watts. Why do you need film footage of that? Chilling photos show stained clothes Shanann Watts was wearing when she was murdered and buried in shallow grave by husband The clothing did not match what Shanann Watts was wearing in. I think he did premeditate this, even if it was just in his mind. Shanann Watts worked for a multi-level marketing companywhileChris Watts was employed by Anadarko Petroleum (though he was fired on the day of his arrest) per The Coloradan. I can also see just a natural tendency for women to support another woman in a scenario where the man is cheating. The couple was blessed with two daughters: Bella Marie Watts who was born on December 17, 2013, and Celeste Cathryn Cece Watts who was born on July 17, 2015. On November 3, 2012, Chris and Shanann got married in the Mecklenberg County of North Carolina. The Colorado woman's husband, Chris - a normally loving affectionate man - had become cold and distant. But one day she starts seeing subtle changes, then more physical changes, and a more assured and arrogant Chris started to emerge, she knew the marriage was definitely in trouble before she got pregnant. There is never a good enough reason to do what he did. Anger, as in a simmering boil. Though the Watts family had financial struggles, they also had a . Offline, however, the text messages between Shanann and Chris and Shanann and her friends painted a starkly different picture. But what made it so difficult to interrupt the happy family fairy tale? In an interview with Dr.Phil, Chris lawyer told how Chris killed his daughters. The first time Chris attempted to murder his two children, Shanann was still alive. Said he thought another baby would fix his feelings. A more assertive divorce narrative [to Kessinger]. she captioned. On August 9, Shanann left for a work trip to Arizona and returned the morning of August 13. I notice other than no longer wanting to be with him, he had nice things to say about her, she was a hard worker, people liked and were drawn to her and she got along well with them. This is a lot of the same behavior patterns people go through when they get abortions. The streaming platform recently released the documentary American Murder: . Based on her Facebook page, Shanann Watts had it all: a satisfying career that allowed her to travel, two gorgeous little girls, a doting husband and a new baby on the way. The grass always looks greener when you are looking at a fantasy. At a later hearing, the bail was set at $5 million, and Chris was required to put down 15% to be released. That was definitely the plan." He committed to committing some of the worst offenses and then proceeded to act like it was no big deal. All parents would want the best education for their children. I have been truly floored by everything else I have been reading. Shanann was buried in a shallow grave, while Bella and Celeste were left submerged inside two oil tanks at the site. It is hard to understand why Chris committed the violent acts. Similar to C&S relationship. She noted that most murders of American women are committed by intimate partners, not strangers. Ok so I have an opinion on this and it probably wont be a popular one but here goes. That is never a good sign. Watts, 35, reportedly detailed the gruesome slaying of Shanann Watts in one of his prison letters - and he also revealed that he'd been thinking about killing her for "weeks." 15 Disturbing prison letters from Chris Watts to a crime author detailed Shannan Watts' horrific death Credit: Refer to Caption 15 They filed for bankruptcy due to do much debt they had. I cant come back like this. The thousands in shoes, clothes, purses etc. They were also due in court just weeks after the murders because their homeowner's association sued. I love Chris! she wrote. If you look at photos of their dining room before the bankruptcy you can see a beautiful black dining set with side board and Im not talking cheap stuff here as I would say the set was a minimum of $5-7000. I also find that interesting which seems to me she couldnt handle conflict either. I like nice things and having nice experiences. This may sound strange but he could have done it to have them be with her in death. He wants out but. Separation comes up 38 times in the discovery, and 8 times [separate or separating] in the CBI Report. Based on her Facebook page, Shanann Watts had it all: a satisfying career that allowed her to travel, two gorgeous little girls, a doting husband and a new baby on the way. They met when she was in high school and he was in law school. But I work my ass off in a cold office every day to pay for it. That is a comment that should never have been said; parenthood is exhausting and social media never forgives human missteps. Chris was arrested by Frederick Police on August 15, 2018, after he had failed a polygraph test, and subsequently, confessed to murdering his wife, Shanann. Shannan's body was . Taylor, "We will get together when I get home". They met in 2010 through mutual friends and married in November 2012. He doesnt say but of course, we are only getting Leonards side of the story and we cant hear Shananns. Our love just grows strong everyday!". Its no mystery, the Watts marriage was in trouble long before Shanann received that critical credit card alert on Saturday night, proving Watts wasnt at the Rockies Games, and suggesting he wasnt eating alone. On August 13, 2018, Colorado father Chris Watts murdered his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and their two daughters, 4-year-old Bella and 3-year-old Celeste. We also know that in the weeks prior Shanann was setting her husband up in her Thrive spiels as a great father and perfect husband and the best thing that has ever happened to her. 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